I see it on the roadmap but there doesn't seem to be any documentation on what we can expect.

Thanks in advance
Frank

Frank,
For the initial release Blue will include complete server-integration for automated deployment management and hot-sync editing/debugging. So if you use ME now with WAS 6.1, you'll notice you need to still use the admin console to manage deployments, but in Blue MyEclipse will handle it all for you automatically.

There will also be full support for the WebSphere 6.1 web services technology stack in Blue. You will also get full project import capabilities. Meaning you can take a RAD project and import it automatically into ME Blue and continue working on it. There will also be support for ClearCase and how it's SCM/lock-mechanisms work and so on. The price of Blue will be $149.90.

Lemme know if you have more questions.

So it is named Blue based mostly on the integration with RAD and WAS.

Is there anything else of value to the rest of the free world? <grin>

Thanks,
Frank

Frank it's really targeted at RAD/WAS developers right now. But that's not to say some of the R&D going into Blue isn't coming back into MyEclipse Pro, just not the RAD-specific stuff, that will always stay in Blue-proper.

The term "full support" in your description seems to imply that there is currently something missing as far as support for WebSphere web services in MyEclipse.

I notice specifically there is no tutorial/example of doing web services on MyEclipse and WebSphere although there is one with WebLogic.

I have a client that is doing web services with WebSphere 6.1 and is looking to use MyEclipse instead of RAD. The problem is they are looking to do some training on this next month.

I need a little more background about issues/comments people have had about developing WebSphere web services with MyEclipse/XFire to come up with reasonable recommendations about whether or not to use Blue.

I don't want to tell them they might have to wait a few weeks for the training without good justification. At the same time I don't want to show them how to use a combination of MyEclipse and WebSphere that will cause problems in the future.

I'm sure this type of information would be very valuable to others also and a major selling point for the Blue edition in general. I'm sure every client using WebSphere and web services would have the same type of question and need information to get them to commit to using MyEclipse instead of RAD.

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The term "full support" in your description seems to imply that there is currently something missing as far as support for WebSphere web services in MyEclipse.

Our current Web Service support is built around the XFire framework. The Blue WS support will be built around the WebSphere 6.1 JAX-WS specification support.

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I notice specifically there is no tutorial/example of doing web services on MyEclipse and WebSphere although there is one with WebLogic.

True, we haven't released Blue yet though. There will be a big need for blue-specific docs that will get created for it's launch.

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I need a little more background about issues/comments people have had about developing WebSphere web services with MyEclipse/XFire to come up with reasonable recommendations about whether or not to use Blue.

Our future WS support will be moving towards the JAX-WS web service specification. The WebSphere WS work is based on that, but integrated more tightly with WS 6.1, I don't have details as to what the differences are at this time. I'll ask a dev to follow up with you.

Thanks for the info. This certainly helps and any more detail would be appreciated.

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Our current Web Service support is built around the XFire framework. The Blue WS support will be built around the WebSphere 6.1 JAX-WS specification support.

I know that the JAX-WS support for WebSphere 6.1 is provided by the WebSphere 6.1 "Feature pack" for web services. This means it is a little different (although not much) than "out of the box" WebSphere 6.1.

The "Feature pack" for web services with WebSphere 6.1 is provided using the regular maintenance update procedure and is fully supported by IBM. Others can find out more info here:

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=180&uid=swg21264563

If this is the web services support provided in the "Blue" edition it would be critical to point this out to clients looking to use the Blue edition. I just wouldn't want anyone looking to the Blue edition to be upset with MyEclipse when they try to use the MyEclipse Blue edition for web services without the WebSphere web services feature pack.

Stuart thanks for the heads up, I'll be sure to pass this along.

I'm sorry if this isn't the place for this question, bu it's driving me nuts. I'm trying to work with the MyEclipse embedded Tomcat server. My OS is Windows Vista (sigh). Here's the problem: Tomcat seems to start up (at least the log thinks it does), but http://localhost:8080 diplays the "The webpage cannot be found" message. OK. I'm an optimist, so I try the app anyway. Of course I get the 404. I can't seem to find anything like this via google or here. Tomcat is running but it doesn't matter. What the....

Any suggestions other than the obvious (get rid of Vista)...?

Roger,
There are few things. First you likely won't see a welcome page at 8080/ because we ship a cut down version of Tomcat that doesn't include the default /ROOT welcome page. But you *Should* be able to see your own app under it's own context... like http://localhost:8080/rogerapp or whatever it's called.

Second, because of the new permission model in Vista, it's possible your deployments are failing depending where MyEclipse is installed now... you might be able to resolve this by running MyEclipse as an administrator (right-click on shortcut, go to Run as Administrator).

I think the problem is likely the first thing though. Try that for me please.

Thanks for the reply. Your suggestion was great. Now deployments and testing are going exactly as I hoped. Thanks again.

By the way, now that I have your ear, is there any plans in the future for the XML editor to handle XSLT. From what I can see, it's great for validation and syntax. I do a lot of training ona number of topics (Java mostly and XML). My XML course covers XSLT and it's the only feature I can't find in MyEclipse.

On the other hand, congrats in general. Almost every course I teach I can use MyEclipse as a preferred IDE. The students seem to like it as well.

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By the way, now that I have your ear, is there any plans in the future for the XML editor to handle XSLT.

Probably not. If you need strong XSTL support you might look at the 3rd party product, or if there is an open source 3rd party project out there that provides it, we could certainly add it to the Pulse catalog and you could use Pulse (www.poweredbypulse.com) to add it to a development profile using DnD.

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On the other hand, congrats in general. Almost every course I teach I can use MyEclipse as a preferred IDE. The students seem to like it as well.

We really appreciate that. Please check your private messages ;)