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I would like to start with a small rant…
Seriously? The software cost as much as it does and the best support one can get is a search of a forum that brings back over 2k results? Yes, I know, for a small payment of $500 I can get actual support…. seriously?
Ok, now i’m done.
Processor 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Graphics Intel HD Graphics 4000 1024 MB
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 6 MB
Available: 369.55 GB (369,548,431,360 bytes)
Capacity: 499.42 GB (499,418,034,176 bytes)
Physical Drive:
Media Name: APPLE SSD SD512E Media
Medium Type: SSD
Protocol: SATAAbout the only thing that makes this software not crawl is to turn automatic build off. It literarily takes an excess of 1 second per jsp file to validate. The only modification I have made to the software is to add subclipse. Any attempt to turn off validation, with or with out any projects open, will result in the software to hang indefinitely.
Any suggestions as to how I can make this thing run any faster? Aside from putting my dev environment into a ramdisk env? I have made sure that java (7) has more than enough resources available to it. I do not dare run a single other application (that I can control) while having myeclipse open.
To be sure that I was not doing something crazy in my os, I did a clean install of mavericks just 24 hours ago.
I have made sure that the mac is happy with all of its indexing that it has to do.
I have been playing this game of computers for more than 20 years now and I am at a loss as to how to make this application run at an acceptable pace. Although, I would be just fine with slow, if I could disable some of the validation so that I could get a speedup from extremely slow.
I understand that I am welcome to use either of the two other versions of the software that I have, and I will likely do just that, but it would be nice to know if there was something that I was doing wrong or if it is just buggy software.
Correct me if I am wrong, but the subscription is to be enabled to use tools that are supposed to make the development lifecycle be rapid… If the integration into the platform of which those tools are presented is buggy and slow, it defeats the whole purpose.
Thank you in advance for any time and assistance that you are willing to spare.
Back to playing with the beach ball.
snipes2083,
Sorry that you are seeing issues with MyEclipse Spring 2014. The Team is looking into it and they will get back to you at the earliest
Sorry you are having such a horrible experience with 2014; we definitely want to fix this – you clearly have a machine that is more than capable of running it. We have tested ME4S on Mavericks and were not able to replicate any performance issues, on a machine that is far less capable, of course, we don’t have the same environment as you so something is certainly wrong at your end.
1) To clear things up, you mentioned “two other versions of the software” – what versions are you talking about? Are there no performance problems with these versions? Assume you are editing the same projects in them?
2) How many projects do you have in your workspace, would you define them as “large” – thousands of JSPs, huge/hundreds of JAR files, for instance? What projects do you have – Web, EJB, EARs?
3) Could you try switching to a new workspace (use File > Switch workspace) – and just create a dummy project there – do you seen the same performance problems there too? The problem could be something do with your workspace settings or the projects themselves.
4) Back to your original configuration, can you check the ini file and try increasing the amount of memory given to the VM? This doc will help you locate the ini file on OS X https://www.genuitec.com/forums/topic/installation-where-are-the-myeclipse-files-and-folders/
Will be waiting on your responses.
@Support-Brian wrote:
1) To clear things up, you mentioned “two other versions of the software” – what versions are you talking about? Are there no performance problems with these versions? Assume you are editing the same projects in them?
I have myeclipse for spring 10 and myeclipse for spring 2013. While they both have their own special needs, none are so extreme as the 2014 version. I am editing the same projects in each of them and I tend to have a project per workspace. I know that it sounds like a pain managing many work-spaces but it tends to be the easiest way to prepare for and respond to the inevidable pending doom that myeclipse will bring to your project.
@Support-Brian wrote:
2) How many projects do you have in your workspace, would you define them as “large” – thousands of JSPs, huge/hundreds of JAR files, for instance? What projects do you have – Web, EJB, EARs?
I tend to not venture much past 3 projects per workspace and usually have no more than one open at a time. The projects tend to consist of hundreds of JSPs with maven managed dependencies. The majority of the protects will consist of WAR producing web projects with the occasional EJB or JAR.
@Support-Brian wrote:
3) Could you try switching to a new workspace (use File > Switch workspace) – and just create a dummy project there – do you seen the same performance problems there too? The problem could be something do with your workspace settings or the projects themselves.
It is regular practice to create and switch between work-spaces. In 2014, in a fresh workspace, with no project created, It is simply not possible to remove html or jsp validation. I have not tried all other combinations because, like I had said previously, I would likely go back to one of the other version.
@Support-Brian wrote:
4) Back to your original configuration, can you check the ini file and try increasing the amount of memory given to the VM? This doc will help you locate the ini file on OS X https://www.genuitec.com/forums/topic/installation-where-are-the-myeclipse-files-and-folders/
Depending on the environment, I am working in, i usually allot no less than 1024m, much more than what should be needed. My vm gets configured much like our production servers do as the development machines have close enough power to handle the server configurations with just the developer using.
I wanted to add one more thing as there has been no response for some time now.
My operating environment is one where a complete wipe of the drive took place.
A fresh install of Mavericks was install.
All updates were applied.
Only additional installs that took place were:
Added Java7
Added Glassfish4
Added Firefox and Chrome.
Added FlashOutside of this, no additional software was installed. As my motivation for completely erasing my development machine was to try to make my development environment more productive, I did not dare install any other software as I was too afraid that myEclipse 2014 simply would not run.
We managed to reproduce the problem – while we were testing disabling and enabling all validators, this is actually an issue when disabling a single validator as detailed here:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=412826Unfortunately it affects only OS X and the workaround is to right click the checkbox and choose Manual / Build to disable or enable the individual validator. This is not a performance issue, but a serious bug in the handler for those checkboxes that simply causes the workbench to hang. We’ll be fixing this in the next maintenance release as well as putting a note out for Mac users; thank you very much for the report.
If you could use the workaround above, you should be able to continue using 2014. I will also reiterate that while it is good to have a clean system, extreme steps aren’t really required – we can be affected by the JVM that is ultimately used to run MyEclipse as well as other plugins that you add to the MyEclipse environment, but you do not need to be careful outside these items.
Moving beyond this immediate problem, I would also like to address the more general performance issue that you are having, you stated that you would need to disable validators to be able to get the environment to a usable state. Can you please let me know which validators need to be disabled (or, which validators, when disabled, significantly improve the performance of your environment)? We can then take a closer look at these validators to see how we can fix/improve their performance issues.
Once again, appreciate your patience and support.
I will gladly go though the list as soon as I get a moment. Our team has been asking more and more frequently when we can migrate to a more modern environment. While I come from a long background of using eclipse as an IDE for many languages, I am yet to be able to have a smooth transition into either 2013 or 2014 with our current project. Admittedly, I have never put forth any true effort to pull the task off, as I rarely have the time. While I would like to help identify issues and report on them, I do not think that I will be able to do so until after Christmas. If this is too long to wait, please let me know and I will simply wait for your next update before venturing back into 2014.
