I'd also like to append to Scott's list new Hibernate enhancements that include, but are not limited to, a visual mapping editor and other sweet drag-and-drop functionality. And no Hibernate 3 support just yet, let us get 4.0 out the door :)

Also, while we will have several new hibernate enhancements for M1, the visual mapper for hibernate will be in M2, not M1.

Scott,
Is jdk 5.0 good for UML tools ?

Thanks

When 4.0M1 goes out, it would be nice to have a roadmap for the other Milestone releases, maybe not release dates but things of interest like 3.1 support, DB browser changes etc... We here might not upgrade if say the Hibernate support hasn't changed etc...

I think this is all a wind up and 4.0 has been ready for ages, you just like to build the excitment up in the ME community ;-).

Hi Guys,
Who are working hard..Keep up the good work and update this forum as you are doing now..I can wait for 3-5 weeks to get 4 M2 since i am more interested to work with SPRING , JSP Designer e.t.c..

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Sticky

ewwww!

Is there a generalized release schedule for the milestones? Certainly we all appriciate taking your time getting things right. Sometimes we wish more companies took such a responsible position.

Wow, lots of comments/questions. Let me see what I can do to hit them all.

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Is jdk 5.0 good for UML tools ?

I have to say I don't know. It's all Java and built on 1.4.2 and we have seen bugs fixed in the 1.4.2 releases that resolved problems we were having in development. So, there may be differences on 1.5, but they shouldn't be anything large. Our intent is that yes, it will work on 1.5 but we honestly haven't had time to test it yet. Perhaps some of our fabulous QA Board guys could do that since the milestone will hit them about a day before public release.

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When 4.0M1 goes out, it would be nice to have a roadmap for the other Milestone releases, maybe not release dates but things of interest like 3.1 support, DB browser changes etc... We here might not upgrade if say the Hibernate support hasn't changed etc...

Well, it might not be an official "roadmap" on the website, but I'll do my best to let you know what to expect as soon as I know. As far as upgrading goes, please remember that thes are *development milestones*. Please don't replace your production environments with them. While we've made every effort not to break anything that was working, these milestones certainly will not have any regression testing done on them, so please treat them cautiously.

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I think this is all a wind up and 4.0 has been ready for ages, you just like to build the excitment up in the ME community ;-).

Shuuush! Yeah, you know how it goes in most companies. Developers get everything built, QA'd, documented, and ready for production and then the sales and marketing guys come in and say, "No, you guys did that way too fast. We're going to hold it for awhile to build up some excitement in the community as we slowly leak out the new stuff. Take some time off in the interim." ;-)

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Who are working hard..Keep up the good work and update this forum as you are doing now..I can wait for 3-5 weeks to get 4 M2 since i am more interested to work with SPRING , JSP Designer e.t.c..

Thanks. That's why I'm trying to let everyone know what will hit each milestone. So you can see if you're motivated to help us test it and provide feedback. Don't feel compelled to jump in until we add something compelling. ;-)

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My sentiments exactly. I wish the portal developers had chosen another adjective, perhaps "pinned" might have been good.

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Is there a generalized release schedule for the milestones? Certainly we all appriciate taking your time getting things right. Sometimes we wish more companies took such a responsible position.

I guess it will be at least a couple of weeks between each one of them, to give us time to get feedback, respond, and implement new features. We'll continue to milestone until we're feature complete and our community tells us that "Hey, that last milestone, that *was* the production release". Then we'll stamp it final and open it to the world as the latest version.

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I have to say I don't know. It's all Java and built on 1.4.2 and we have seen bugs fixed in the 1.4.2 releases that resolved problems we were having in development. So, there may be differences on 1.5, but they shouldn't be anything large. Our intent is that yes, it will work on 1.5 but we honestly haven't had time to test it yet. Perhaps some of our fabulous QA Board guys could do that since the milestone will hit them about a day before public release.

I will do it

I'll be testing 1.5 as well... :)

Well, I promised to update so here's what I've got.

We've been working extended hours opening PR's and then fixing them at an alarming rate and the milestone code is really starting to solidify. We anticipate we'll be "pencils down" sometime over the weekend and will then push a build out to our external QA board members as soon as possible, but it could likely be late Monday or Tuesday. And, due to the delay in getting the build out, the Tapestry / Spindle integration will be included for all you Tapestry / Spindle fans.

In testing the UML tools we've noticed we have some version dependencies. On Win32, you must be running Eclipse 3.0.2 and at least JDK 1.4.2_05. On Linux, you must be running Eclipse 3.0.2 and JDK 1.5 (it won't work properly on 1.4.2 on Linux due to some enhancements made by Sun). So, if you're interested in testing the UML features and you're base platforms need updating, you have something to keep you busy. ;-)

Thanks for hanging in there - we're getting very close.

Scott,
Do you plane 3.1 version ?

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Do you plane 3.1 version ?

Yes, but not for the first milestone because the porting time just isn't in the schedule. We'll look at it again as we do more milestones and Eclipse does as well. As soon as we fork for 3.1, everything just gets slower and we can't afford that right now.

It might be a good idea to post test cases along with M1. We (users) can give a helping hand(s) to test it with JDK1.5.

Hi,

well, I am playing with Hibernate & Annotations, so 3.1 would be really nice...

brgds,

Papick