Hi Guys,
When is the release 4 going to be out..I read from your website end of APRIL but we are already in 1 week of MAY .I am excited and i cannot wait any longer. :)

Raja Krishnan
Sydney

Raja,
The release date is being pushed out to extend testing, we are not taking any risks with a buggy release. Sorry for the wait, we appreciate your excitement, we just need to work hard to make it well worth it.

Hi!


Do you have any idea on how long this "extended testing" could take? It's just I have to decide what tool to use on the Jax conference next week.

It's ok if it takes a month or two - just let us know...

brgds,

Papick

Papick,
I have sent an update to management to see if I can get any information for you ASAP, thank you for the interest in our 4.0 release.

Hi Guys,
It is good to work with stable release software .Can anyone find out how long is the delay for 4 release (4 weeks or 6 weeks ?) since we have to plan for migration as now we have around 16 licences.
Raja Krishnan
Sydney

Hi,
Any updates from management on release date for 4.0?

This is really frustrating now.!!!!!, atleast let everybody know the date.

Dipak,

We're not trying to frustrate you, is simply that we don't have a firm date on when we'll get the first milestone out. However, I can tell you we're spinning full internal builds and they're coming together pretty well. It's definately "days", not "weeks". Management is killing to get one out the door, but we also must be sure that it's "milestone worthy". So, we're figuring out just what's good enough for external use, as we don't want to waste your time, and are pulling a few portions of the feature sets that will be ready for milestone 2, but just aren't quite "there yet" for milestone 1. But, it's days and we're doing the best we can to solidify everything right now. It won't be today, and it won't be tomorrow, but any date after that increases the likelihood. I'll try to update every couple of days and let you now how it's going. Sorry for the anxiety, but you should feel it from this side if you think it's bad out there. ;-)

We all know you're doing the best you can Scott. I think the frustration comes from not knowing when 4 is going to be released, not the fact that it's a little late, (at least I know mine does). I'm really anxious to see and get working with the new version, especially the JSF features. Updating every few days is a good idea. We are all developers and know what life is like when management wants what it wants yesterday. You have my sympathy.

Agreed with vLenin.

Being late isn't a big deal, just knowing when matters. We have a saying in our shop, "If you have to deliver bad news, deliver it early and often".

I too would much rather have a stable release than an early release.

Keep up the good work.

Scott,
Thanks for your prompt response. I think last 2 posts have said, what I was trying to. Frustration is not because of delay, but because we don't know any updates. I really appreciate if you can update every couple of days.

-Dipak

Could you update the roadmap or give us some hints to which features will be privided in the first milestone? Just would like to know if JSF and UML will be part of it... :-)

Thanks for your support,

brgds,

P.G.Taboada

P.G.

JSF and UML will be in M1, I just confirmed this with the QA team: "We are testing it as we speak".

Wow, what a fast response! OK, I hear ya. I'll do my best to post some "dailies" here, so you all can get the scoop on what we're up to.

In M1, you'll have a lot, but not complete functionality (it's an M, afterall) for JSF, UML, and additional Struts stuff. The big thing we're working on that you won't see in M1 is the visual JSP designer. Development on that is going really well, but we're looking for a "wow" when you see it so we're going to harden and enhance it a bit for a preview in M2. At present, it looks like Spring and Tapestry support will also hit M2 rather than M1, although Tapestry has an outside chance for M1, depending on when the cut is made. Also, we've been concentrating on new development so we haven't done a standard "bug fix" pass from 3.8.4 yet either so there really aren't many "fixes" in this release, just new "features". As we finish the features we'll do a "fixes" pass before we call 4.0 done, so don't fret if there are some bugs you want to see addressed; we just haven't done that yet.

Oh, and one note about the UML tools. Sun has fixed some bugs in the JDK that affect how well our UML tools work, so you'll need to run Eclipse with JDK 1.4.2_05 or higher to fix those problems. 1.4.2_08 is the latest build so if you're looking for something to do so you'll be ready when the milestone hits, update your JDK. ;-)

And, the installs will be manual installs only, since we really only want experienced MyEclipse users trying out the milestone builds, and will be for 3.0.x only since we sure don't have time to port dev buils to Eclipse milestones right now.

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