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binyan
Post subject: Eclipse 3.1M6  PostPosted: Mar 30, 2005 - 06:08 PM
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Ok, I'm back. I was quiet on support not being available for 3.1M5a mainly because I was in the middle of a release cycle and because I had the good fortune to meet some of you all at EclipseCon and knew how hard ME was working on the next release. But seriously, ME needs to provide a 3.1M6 deliverable or I'm going to have to move my team off it. I'm not trying nor wanting to do it maliciously, just that our next project will be Java 5+ and we need the java support in 3.1M6.

Sadly because I met you all, I can no longer hide behind my user id, and say things with impunity (damn, there goes the good old days), then again you all can't hide from me either. I know where the office is and Wayne gave me his cell # and I'm not afraid to use it. :))

Now give me what I need so I can go back to spreading the ME gospel, please and thank you.

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Yeah, I would like to know the schedule for M6 too.... :-)
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 31, 2005 - 03:50 PM
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Now that the Eclipse API's are "frozen", we'll provide an M6 beta version when we release MyEclipse 4.0 toward the end of April as part of our normal release cycle. Thanks for hanging in a few more weeks.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 31, 2005 - 10:57 PM
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support-scott wrote:
Now that the Eclipse API's are "frozen", we'll provide an M6 beta version when we release MyEclipse 4.0 toward the end of April as part of our normal release cycle.


ooo.. sounds exciting ! is there a (semi) frozen feature set that you can publish for ME4 ?
 
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ooo.. sounds exciting ! is there a (semi) frozen feature set that you can publish for ME4 ?

Sorry, but it's a secret. :-)

Ok, I'll talk. We're targeting WYSIWYG JSP design, UML, visual hibernate tooling, and some JSF and Tapestry support. Plus some smaller stuff.

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Scott,

How much will the UML feature be like what Microsoft is going to have in the next release of Visual Studio? "The Visual Studio Class Designer lets you visualize the structure of classes and their relationships, create new classes using a visual design environment, and easily refactor classes."

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dv_vstechart/html/clssdsgnr.asp


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Scott - is the wysiwyg jsp design going to work on linux, or is this enhancment of what is available for windows? I also see Tapestry mentioned, I'm assuming Spring support is also being worked on? Trying to be patient :)
 
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How much will the UML feature be like what Microsoft is going to have in the next release of Visual Studio?

I don't know really what they're up to. We'll have UML drawing and some forward and reverse engineering of code.

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Scott - is the wysiwyg jsp design going to work on linux, or is this enhancment of what is available for windows?

Sorry, that one is Windows-only in this release due to the technologies we had to use in order to deliver it in a timely and cost-effective manner.

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I also see Tapestry mentioned, I'm assuming Spring support is also being worked on? Trying to be patient :)

Spring? You guys still want that? I thought everyone wanted Tapestry now. ;-)
Seriously though, we're working on both for 4.0.

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Scott, I think you need to quickly release versions for 3.1M6 and each milestones from here on without any new features. ME 4.0 is not really on anyone's MUST GET list but 3.1 and Java 5 are. Otherwise, enough people will start looking elsewhere, taking much of the momentum out of ME.
 
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Don,

We hear you (and everyone else :-)! Actually, we've got someone looking at M6 compatibility for a 3.8.4 beta release now. With any luck we should get one out the door soon.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Apr 07, 2005 - 05:32 PM
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I know there's a lot of interest in M6 compatibility, so here's an update:

We've got an M6-compliant build of 3.8.4 in QA right now. We're going through additional builds as bugs are found and fixed, but overall things look really good. At this rate, the build should be available for public download in a few days.

As you know, we basically do what our customers tell us is important and we'll be keeping tightly aligned with the Eclipse 3.1 milestones going forward. Thanks for all the feedback and for keeping us on the right track.

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Thank you for the update Scott!

Is it possible to provide weekly status reports on what you guys are working on? Something similar to what the Eclipse team does on the eclipse-dev mailing list?

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Thank you for the update Scott!


No problem.

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Is it possible to provide weekly status reports on what you guys are working on? Something similar to what the Eclipse team does on the eclipse-dev mailing list?

Theoretically, it is. But you have to remember that some of the stuff we work on we like to keep it a secre for awhile so we can surprise our competitors. It's a tough market and our management doesn't like to telegraph what we're doing too early as it gives others time to copy us. That said, at the present time everyone is hunkered down working on MyEclipse 4.0 features: UML, visual Hibernate tools, visual JSP designer, Spring, Tapestry etc. All we value here is delivery, and we're working on doing just that. :-)

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manica
Post subject: Just another vote...  PostPosted: Apr 09, 2005 - 12:15 AM



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I'm new to eclipse. Having been an IntelliJ snob for several years, I'm now at a eclipse based shop and I'm struggling to get along with the tool. As I see it, MyEclipse is just about the only way to get the tool to a comparable level as IntelliJ. The problem is that we are using Java5, so I must use 3.1M5 or higher where there is no MyEclipse support.

So, count this as another vote for getting a M6 compatibility out the door as soon as possible. I'll happily run on an unstable beta, if necessary. In the meantime, I'm moaning everyday to return to IntelliJ -- hopefully, you guys can help me turn that around. :)

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Apr 09, 2005 - 12:27 AM
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just wait a couple more days :)
 
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